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Ep.238 From Cult Town to Comedy Stages: The Strange Journey of Dylan Kennedy
In this week’s episode of The Days Grimm Podcast, hosts Brian Day and Thomas Grimm sit down with stand-up comedian Dylan Kennedy — a rising comic from New Harmony, Indiana, a town with a cult-filled past and plenty of weird stories. Dylan shares his hilarious journey from small-town roots and cheap rent to performing live comedy sets across the Midwest, including Louisville’s legendary Planet of the Tapes.
The conversation dives deep into writing jokes, overcoming stage fear, growing up in a “cult-town,” and why sometimes the funniest stories come from total nonsense. Expect laughs, dark humor, and absurd honesty as Dylan explains his anti-humor style, TP pranks gone wrong, and how comedy became a life-saving outlet after hard times.
🔥 Topics Covered:
- Life and legends of New Harmony, Indiana
- How cult history inspires comedy
- Dylan’s first open mic at Spanky’s Bar
- What “anti-humor” really means
- The fine line between offensive jokes and great comedy
- Writing new material every week
🎧 Tune in for one of the funniest and most unpredictable Days Grimm episodes yet — where laughter meets storytelling, and weird meets wonderful.
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Hello.
SPEAKER_02:And welcome back to another thrilling episode of the day's grim. My name is Brian Michael Day. My name is Thomas Graham. What's up, dude? Not mine. I was waiting to see how long I could let it go before Lexi got hit.
SPEAKER_03:I lost 12 viewers in that time. They hit that 10-second fast forward, and there was still nothing.
SPEAKER_02:Thomas joining us in the studio.
SPEAKER_03:Joining us this week in the Days Grimm studio is Dylan Kennedy. How are you?
SPEAKER_02:Hey, what's up, Dylan?
SPEAKER_03:What's up, dude? And don't be afraid of that mic, man. You can pop up on in there, man.
SPEAKER_02:Um, yeah, dude. So uh welcome to your now second uh Days Grim podcast show. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Proper interview. Better than the 0.5 one. Yeah, the one he went before our show. Oh, right.
SPEAKER_01:Will they know about that before this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03:So these will drop in chronological order. Right on.
SPEAKER_01:Well, it's good to be back.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's good to have you back in. Different setup this time. Absolutely. More comfortable chairs. Can I get a peek at the logic real quick? Sorry.
SPEAKER_02:Uh just a quick. He sounds soft in the headphones. I am soft. No, him. I'm soft as well. I thought we were all flaccid on are we all on the same picture? My fiance's in here, so I'm a little chopped down. Okay, I get it. Yeah, go ahead and what channel is he? Can we bump him a little bit? Over here. Sorry, I know I'm just being a I get nervous because when they're too quiet, I can't fix it and post. No, I get it. I did a podcast for several years. See how quiet he is. What channel is he? Four.
SPEAKER_01:Hello, testing.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and don't be afraid of that mic. The closer you are, the better. Office. Closer to the better. There you go. Yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_01:Is that better?
SPEAKER_03:A little louder bed.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, a little give me a little rabbit bump. Give me a little key bump. That should be good. Hell yeah. Alright, dude. Working the kinks out. We're in a new space. Don't worry, we're figuring it out. One one key bump at a time. Uh, Dylan, how the fu how are you, dude? You doing? I'm wonderful. I'm absolutely wonderful. Yeah, you're in a you're in a weird, you've met us at a weird phase. You know what I mean? We had you in like three weeks ago for a comedy cachet in the in the shoebox up in the really hot uh attic.
SPEAKER_01:It was hot. It's shit's hot.
SPEAKER_03:Hot AF. Hot Ann Frank, you know?
SPEAKER_01:No, it's goddamn.
SPEAKER_02:I'm honored to be here. Absolutely. Dude, we're honored to have you, man. You were such a blast to have on the Comedy Cachet. Normally it doesn't go in that order. I think the only other person we ever did in that order was uh Andy Russ Andy. We still haven't interviewed Andy Russell yet. YTD. Uh but yeah, so um yeah, normally we You actually went out and performed after that episode, I believe.
SPEAKER_03:Like since in that few weeks, you went out on stage and you had a show, right?
SPEAKER_02:I did the comedy cachet. It was like three weeks ago, I think.
SPEAKER_01:Right, yeah, yeah. I was in Louisville, um yeah, doing the at the Planet of the Tapes.
SPEAKER_02:How was that, dude? That's wonderful.
SPEAKER_01:It's sick. That's a really fun venue up there.
SPEAKER_02:Ooh, I can't, I think it was Space Monkey that told us about Planet of the Tapes, I'm pretty sure. Oh no, a handful of comedians we've had in, yeah. They all blend together, honestly. Yeah, it's like it's like a retro place.
SPEAKER_01:A little bit bigger 90s vibe. Yeah, it's like everything's kind of got like a VHS aesthetic type deal. Oh yeah, dude. I don't know, it's cool. They gotta they have big X come through there too. So like X gonna give it to you? Yeah. Exhibit was there. Uh opening for him, actually. I can't stand out. I'm gonna lose my body.
SPEAKER_03:My favorite part is Dylan loves stuff like this. You know what I mean? So it's just gonna be an episode full of Brian for his fucking fucking wordplay.
SPEAKER_02:We'll throw will be the death me. I will throw myself off a bridge. I'm I've come very close. Uh and then for you to not fucking laugh at my goddamn gnome joke and Comedy Cachet fucking was it 13? I don't know. That pissed me off. I was just talking to Dylan about that. Dylan, for the folks at home and maybe for the folks that haven't watched Comedy Cachet 13 or 14, because Tom can't fucking remember. Uh, can you give the folks at home that are listening and or watching right now a little taste of like who is Dylan Kennedy, dude? Like, who are you? Wow. Um like in your soul, you know what I mean? Like really dig deep to you.
SPEAKER_01:Can I meditate for a minute?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, uh, we'll go ahead and break out a mirror for you to look into.
SPEAKER_01:Um I don't know. I guess you could classify me a stand-up comedian, um uh unemployed. Uh join the team, join the team.
SPEAKER_02:Hell yeah, brother.
SPEAKER_01:I drive a 2010 Ford Fusion um with an exhaust leak. Uh sick, dude. Sick. Hey, easier to kill yourself. That's how I look at it. It's nice. It makes driving fun. It makes driving. I don't I'm not I've not been road raging as much recently. Yeah, you're getting a little sleepy actually. A little bit. Feeling pretty zoomed. Might be the Tylenol or the fluoride.
SPEAKER_02:So uh and it was a Ford uh Ford what? Uh fusion. Ford fusion, dude. Nice.
SPEAKER_01:They say they say it's like an electrical car, but it's a hundred percent not really. So I don't know. A hundred percent not really.
SPEAKER_03:He's everything but the power steering is electrical.
SPEAKER_01:I think that's about it. I think they have like one electrical part, so they're like, this is a hybrid. It's like uh I put gas in it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's I don't have any fucking I got one battery in here, dog. It's the size of a case of beer.
SPEAKER_01:It's about as electrical as a good. But no, yeah. Um re yeah, stand-up comedian, um uh entrepreneur, uh, I don't know, mind reader.
SPEAKER_02:Uh nice, dude. Do you think cards? I'm gonna I'm gonna cut to the chase. Do you think you're funny?
SPEAKER_01:Um, I definitely think I'm funny. Classify yourself as funny, dude. I definitely think I'm funny.
SPEAKER_04:Joking, dude.
SPEAKER_01:I So I definitely I kind of have had this conversation with people a lot where it's like, uh, I definitely think I'm funny, and but sometimes what I think is so funny about me is how unfunny I am. I don't know. I've been classified as like anti-humor before. I know rather not to be offended by that. Uh can you explain that?
SPEAKER_02:Because I don't understand. I don't know what anti-humor is. I'm very stupid. There's gonna be a lot of times I check in with you and I'm not like sure what's happening. Right. Um what's anti-humor?
SPEAKER_01:It's kind of like um it's I don't know how to explain it. The best way I can like, okay, so have you heard this joke where it's like what's green and smells like blue paint? Red paint. I'm too dumb to get it, dude. That's exactly that's kind of the joke. I'm too stupid. It's not, I don't know, it's not smart at all. Some I don't know. I I'm still like this is I'm still within a year of performing comedy, so I'm still very much like figuring it out. But someone said that to me one time after Mike. They're like, I love your anti-jokes. And I was like, anti-jokes? I thought that shit was funny, but okay.
SPEAKER_02:Buddy, these are real jokes. Not a real joke. Uh so okay, so doing comedy for about a year, and uh let's grow to like, did you grow up in Evansville?
SPEAKER_03:Where the hell are you from, dude?
SPEAKER_02:Um where do they make you?
SPEAKER_01:You know what I mean? You want the long story or the short story? Dude, make it long, daddy. So uh my mother uh was drunk one night. No, love that, dude. Love a good dr inebriated conception. No, uh I uh born in Evansville, um but I've lived in New Harmony most of my life. Colt County. Where's New Harmony? It's in Posey County.
SPEAKER_02:We read about them before. They were like founded in a cult because Mount Vernon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I gotcha, I gotcha. I know what you're talking about. So you're from out there. Um experience with cults?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, oh my god, holy shit, how much time have we got?
SPEAKER_02:Dude, this is your world, dude. We do it, we do an hour, but if it goes an hour and a half, I'm cool, dude.
SPEAKER_01:Top five cults. Let me ask you guys top five cults go. Jonestown.
SPEAKER_03:Pat McAfee, uh Pin Manning, Christianity.
SPEAKER_01:No, I'm just I'm a Jim Jones guy myself. Big Jones guy. Yeah. I like Jones. Uh South South America cults. You know, I'm big into it. I like what he had to say. Um, let me ask you guys first. Like, so every anytime I bring up I'm from New Harmony, there's like even people who don't know much about New Harmony, bring up cults. Like, what is that what's your guys' understanding?
SPEAKER_03:It was founded as a cult. Like they wanted to annex away from like Evansville, so it's like a group of rich families that like started literally a commune out there.
SPEAKER_02:Essentially Commune is probably the best word. I would say common.
SPEAKER_01:They were definitely it was definitely like a religious following to some degree. Um also, if you ask me, I think that he was just a sex weirdo personally. I think that's how it was. Well, hot take, hot take, hot take. Okay, who is he?
SPEAKER_02:Uh now I need the tea. Spill the top.
SPEAKER_01:I hope people from New Harmony aren't watching those. Will you Google who founded New Harmony? I want to say his name was uh Robert Owen. I can't remember if it was Robert Owen, and then Thomas Rapp was the second guy who came in and took it over after Robert Owen.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, Lex, can we Google who the founder of New Harmony was? New Harmony Indiana? For Favor. Who founded yeah, founder of New Harmony, Indiana? I gotta know that.
SPEAKER_01:I want to say it was, let me guess. Okay, yeah. Robert Owen was first, and then hold on, the AI is taking over.
SPEAKER_02:Um, yeah, Robert Owen in 1825 and purchased the entire town. Right, and then George Rapp. Yeah. Damn, you look at you two for two, dude. Yeah, yeah. So which one was the sex weirdo idea?
SPEAKER_03:Created a utopian community based on social equality and education.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. So I think Robert Owen, because he was like the religious guy, and they there's many I've heard people talk about how a big reason why they settled in that area was because he was telling them that when God comes back or when Jesus comes back, that it would be there. Oh yeah. Which is what they all say to some degree. Bro, if you haven't I've heard that about Missouri. Wherever you are, wherever your cult is landed, they're gonna be like, uh, God's gonna come back here.
SPEAKER_02:So well, it's better than Scientology. They think Jesus is like orbiting Earth or something, and they're gonna like scoop you up and give you a new set of Nikes or something, is what I read. Have you heard any isn't he though? I don't know. Anyway, I'm here for new Nikes. Uh but yeah, that's crazy. So from New Harmony, and you you lived a majority of your life there?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, um, and I guess we should start.
SPEAKER_02:How old are you, by the way? I'm 32 years old, too. Don't hold it against me. I'm not dude. Equal opportunity, uh all safe here, dude.
SPEAKER_01:Um I I've always loved New Harmony. Um, I you know was raised there by many ways, but um I grew up in a split household, so it's kind of weird. Kind of a New Harmony Evansville hybrid. Like we would spend like weekends uh in Evansville. A true hybrid, not like your Ford Fusion. Right, exactly. Yeah, not like my Ford Fusion. Much more electrical parts. Um better battery life. Um But yeah, they uh that so that was uh kind of both.
SPEAKER_03:So like for elementary school to New Harmony, do they like bust you out of New Harmony to like there's not an elementary school in New York?
SPEAKER_01:No, I was uh believe it or not, I was a part of the last graduating class of New Harmony. We closed that. New Harmony High School? New Harmony High School, yeah. There was a school there.
SPEAKER_02:What about elementary though?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, the the elementary school and the high school is in the same building. It's like one through twelve. Yeah, like a like a cult.
SPEAKER_02:No Bro, seriously though? No, thank you. How dumb was that you young? How dumb was that being a senior, and you're like, there goes a fucking five-year-old.
SPEAKER_03:It was kind of the underclassmen a lot easier.
SPEAKER_01:It was kind of sick, I'm not gonna lie. Um they a lot of great. I mean, like uh, it was cool because you knew everybody and everybody knew each other. Uh yeah, there's like 20 people at the entire school. Right. How big was your graduating class? Uh I graduated with 12 students. Yeah. I know, which is usually his disciples.
SPEAKER_03:They live at every every grade at 12.
SPEAKER_01:You know, also, we were all 12, come to think of it.
SPEAKER_02:Uh also, all I can think about, like when you said I graduated with a class of 12, and Tom and I both looked at each other and laughed. I was like thinking like we're like the rich people and we're like, ha ha ha peasants. You know that I don't know why that's funny to me. Uh uh, but no, that's that's awesome, dude.
SPEAKER_01:That was very normal for me, and it wasn't until after, I mean, like, because we had friends with other we, you know, other school areas. You communicated with the outside. Yeah, they let us out on the weekends, mostly two hours on Sunday, and yeah, um, yeah. But had to be by horse and buggy. Uh people were always mind blown by that. They'd be like, I'd be like, I have twelve, I graduated with 12 students, and they'd be like, I graduated with like 200. Like, I don't even know half of those people.
SPEAKER_02:Mount Vernon is a very small sh, I won't say shitty school, not a great school. I went there and I graduated with like a hundred and 120 in my class, I think. And that's a small school, dude. For sure. And Wrights is like 500 a class, I think. My school in Indy was like a thousand plus. That's fucking wild, bro. Um so so you're there, and you literally stayed there and graduated high school from New Harmony. What was the name of the school, New Harmony? Just New Harmony High School, New Harmony School, New Harmony. I believe so. Where'd you go to school, New Harmony? Go rapites, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Rap. What? Our sports team were the rapites. Oh, I thought you said rabbis. You were gonna get Tom all fired up. Um based on George Rap? George Rap, yeah. Which was the second guy on the cult down, damn it, dude. Which was the second guy who took the town over, and by many accounts it was a failed, they were going for utopia both times, and they both kind of fucked it up as far as I know.
SPEAKER_02:It's still not a great town. Is that what I'm hearing? No, New Harmony is great. Oh, it is a great town. Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_01:It's wonderful, but their idea, you know, it was supposed to be this like utopian place, right? Like it was the you know the roofless church is cool that's out there.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, so yeah, the roofless church is cool. I I prefer buildings with roofs. I just just me, but uh there is a roof. It's only a roof. There's like literally only a roof.
SPEAKER_01:There's one roof, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But it's not the whole church. Uh they were like, ah, you know what, we're done. Quarter of the church, good to go.
SPEAKER_03:It's hard to read wet paper, you know.
SPEAKER_02:It took them a while to figure it out. I swear to God, what was I wonder if it was like they had a roof and then a tornado took it? You know what I mean? That's my fantasy. That's my fantasy. Um, so okay, so graduate high school. So what do you do after high school then? Uh or what was actually, let's pause. What was high school like? High school at New York in a small town? Like, what did you do for fun? You know what I mean? It was it was pretty dope, not gonna lie. Um I love how you're just selling the shit out of this fucking high school. It doesn't exist, and I want to go back and I want to go to school. I want to take my children. I don't have their own. I want to walk the path.
SPEAKER_01:We had a lot of great teachers, um, for sure. Um I mean, I don't know. We used to go, I mean, like on the weekends we'd go TPing and stuff. That's the stuff I miss doing. Oh, yeah, the mischievousness. The mischievousness, yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_03:Where like uh I mean, like it's gotta be weird being like a class were you class clown? I don't know. I wouldn't I don't think so. Is it hard to be a class clown with only like eleven other students in every single class you attend? Or is it easier?
SPEAKER_01:I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:Were there eleven kids in all your classes, or how did that work? You know, like is it the other classrooms like literally small in itself? It could be like at least 10 in a classroom at one time.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, you got a couple that are going to the special special classes, you know what I mean? I and I was one of those too.
SPEAKER_02:Uh so funny, you know, because I was talking to somebody the other day, so I'm gonna tell you a quick story to ask you a question. But back in the day, like in the 60s, they didn't believe in autism, they just called them retarded back in the day. Everybody was just retreated. Right. That was what it was that was like the medical term. That was the medical term. Like if you were different, you were retarded. Right. Is that how it was at your New Harmony? Like, if they were different, were they just so did they not believe in autism? Do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:I was kind of talking about this a little bit the other day because uh in when I was in high school, we called it special ed, short for special education.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And for whatever reason, briefly, the nickname for kids who attended those classes was SPED. Same for me. SPED, what you guys said, yeah, special education, dude. And I was like, do the kids call they still call them SPEDs or not? I think that's not politically correct anymore.
SPEAKER_02:Um so whatever career you were hoping to have is now ruined. Uh David. It's funny that you say that though, because so like Special ED was an acronym or an abbreviation for special education. Right. And then the dumbass kids were like, that's too long. Let's just call them fucking SPEDs, dude.
SPEAKER_01:No one's got time for all those words. That's the same thing. Doctor Lady. Smart woman. Right.
SPEAKER_03:SPED. Yeah, but I mean, that was the time of spell it. That was the time of T9, though. So like we were shortening everything.
SPEAKER_02:I honestly, dude, T9's probably uh fucking guilty for a lot of ridiculous acronyms.
SPEAKER_03:Well, like LOL and all that, you know what I mean? Like all that started because of T9.
SPEAKER_02:Shout out to T9.
SPEAKER_03:What's T9? Uh with the regular like one through zero. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then like you had to like pressure.
SPEAKER_01:I didn't have a cell phone. I didn't have a cell phone until after I graduated high school. Most kids and cults don't. It's fun. Hey, wasn't allowed uh uh outside communication was frowned upon.
SPEAKER_02:Right. So what did you do for so mischievousness? What else like did you have recreational activities you enjoyed? Like playing car, doing drugs, whatever. You know what I mean? What did you do for fun? Like you and your buddies, you know?
SPEAKER_01:Not necessarily growing up, uh we were a big like movie household, like we watched a lot of movies, and there was a movie theater in New Harmony there for a while. That was a lot of fun. So we frequented that a lot. Um saw like all the Lord of the Rings movies there and like all the all the Harry Potter movies. So mostly that growing up, um, watching a lot of movies. I mean, the only thing we used to joke all the time, the only thing to do in New Harmony is you just walk around, drive around, just like practice being a vagabond.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, pretty much.
SPEAKER_01:Ask people to mow their grass that day. Ask people for money.
SPEAKER_02:Um I mean, just look like me. You know what I mean? Just a beard and under a bridge, uh, which we joked about earlier when you pulled up. Um beards looking nice, by the way. Getting long, awfully scary. Yeah. I think that's the vibe you said you're going for. For spooky season, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You want children to not come near you. Exactly.
SPEAKER_01:And honestly, that's a strong move. That bowl of candy is exclusively for me, and you cannot have any of it. You just come out of the door like I'm holding this candy, not to give it to you though. You got tricked. Did you guys trick a treat in New Harmony?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah. Okay, so they celebrated the pagans. Uh big paganism. Nice, I like that.
SPEAKER_01:Big, big pagan crowd out there.
SPEAKER_03:Um and paid.
SPEAKER_01:We were so I don't know, it's so it's October, um, and I always find myself walking around. I like we I still the only thing to do in New Harmony still is to walk around. And I mean, there's they have bars and stuff there that are that are pretty nice. Okay. Uh, but uh I I don't go there. Uh but uh they uh one thing so it was always like uh a tradition in high school to TP our history teacher. Um I know and shout out to who what was his name? Mr. Johnson, uh great teacher. Um but he uh I don't know why, but every year you'd always hear kids talk about like we're gonna get him this year, we're gonna get him, you know? And he hated it, right? Like he did not want it to happen. Yeah. But that I think that's what encouraged kids to do it. So like me and and but the rumor was if you attempted to TP Mr. Johnson, he'd pop out of a bush with a power hose. Right? Like, and he would tell kids, like, hey, I I got the power hose ready. Like, if anyone's thinking about like TPing me this year, like I got a power hose and I'm not afraid to use it. TP or beware. Right. Yeah, dude. And uh so we TP'd him one year, and by God, he came out of a bush with a power hose. Did this gentleman happen to serve in Vietnam? I don't think he just stays ready. He's got like camera on his trick sensors all around.
SPEAKER_03:He's got 12 ring cameras placed all around the city.
SPEAKER_02:Tactically, dude. He's got them interlocked, like the fields of view. Right. Swear to God, dude. That's gonna be me when I get older. I'm glad I'm not a teacher. I'm sorry, Mr. Johnson. If you're still I guess he's still with us. You're not we're not that old. He's with us, right? Yeah. I bump into him regularly in town still. You ever apologize? Like, hey man, sorry, dude. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I'm like, we're gonna do we're gonna get it. I used to joke. You're lucky I don't come back now. I used to joke with some friends, like, we should just do it for old time's sake. You should run it back, dude. But it's like I don't know what the rules are anymore. I'm pretty sure like it's like vandalism now or something.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:I've seen some posts about it.
SPEAKER_02:It's coming back. Yeah, I think a lot of things are coming back. Like, yeah, you can say recorded now, and I think TP's coming back too. Yeah. I in a big way, actually. Because one of my neighbors got hit not too long ago.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I've seen some people get hit here lately.
SPEAKER_02:It's coming back, dude.
SPEAKER_01:It's free Halloween decor decoration.
SPEAKER_02:And honestly, you know, homeowners, just be smarter with your, you know, your counterterrorism measures. You know what I mean? You know, maybe implement some booby traps. Well, like the power hose works. Power hose per Mr. Johnson. Yeah. Which fine.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Honestly.
SPEAKER_01:We did not get one roll up in that tree before water blasted us in the face. So hit him with a blast.
SPEAKER_03:I wonder if he knows a sprinkler system, just might save him some time.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, but dude, that's the worst when you get tepeed'd and then the tepee gets wet right now. It's biodegradable, it'll come down eventually. Ugh, that's the worst.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that is that is pretty ugly. That's the only thing I get why people wouldn't don't like it happening. But yeah, I want people to TP me. I'm away. I got trees in front of my apartment. I'm like, someone throw some fucking toilet paper at me. You gotta start the trend. You gotta try to try. I'll get it started.
SPEAKER_03:Like here, kids, let me teach you how to do it.
SPEAKER_02:Welcome to the days, Grim. We're interviewing a sociopath. Uh I want somebody to terrorize me. Please soak me, egg me. I don't give a shit.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, this is getting hot.
SPEAKER_01:Oh well.
SPEAKER_03:Did you ever have like prank wars with anybody out there?
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah. Me and our my cousins, uh, we had a year where we were like pretty, pretty aggressive about it. And they uh they got us pretty good because uh we went out, it was on Halloween, and we just we it was simple, you know, we just TP'd them or whatever. Oh yeah. And then they came back and like soaped us, egged us, and then they like went into our house and saran wrapped our toilet. Oh like they got us really good. They like ran they like threw toilet paper all around the house. Like we were like, fuck. Like they like they got us pretty good. They didn't do anything back? I think we went back and put like cool like uh shaving cream under like their car door handles or something like that.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know. The old shaving cream. What if you saran wrapped somebody's house, bro?
SPEAKER_01:Their entire house.
SPEAKER_02:We have like the main level, so they can't fucking get out.
SPEAKER_01:We saran wrapped someone's car one time.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I had my car saran wrapped one time with a bunch of stickers and shaving cream. That's a bold strap, dude. I waited it out. I waited for summer for him to crack his windows, and then I went to a bait shop and bought 2,000 crickets and put them in his car. Oh, you told me about that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And then he was uh fornicating. It was high school, so he only him and his girlfriend only hooked up in their car. He was fornicating with a young lady and he would hear crickets from time to time and it would ruin it for him.
SPEAKER_02:Take you right out of the room. Just take you right out of the cricket. Dude, funny enough, going flashing back real quick to Mount Vernon High School, uh, they had a swimming pool. I don't know if you're aware or not, but they they do have like an Olympic pool or whatever. Yeah. And like for our like we from our freshman year all the way to senior year, and there were probably classes before and after me that thought the same thing, but like we always wanted to prank the pool. Like we always wanted to like do the food coloring or like turn it into jello or like do something, put fish in there. Anything. We always talked about it. Ruin a public pool, never, and we never did it. So it makes me so mad when I think as an adult. I look back on it and I'm like, I should put fish in that fucking pool.
SPEAKER_01:That's a ballsy move, honestly.
SPEAKER_03:I wonder how many packets of jello it would take.
SPEAKER_02:It's it is possible because we YouTube'd it and it's pot it is it's a shitload of jello. That would be a good way. The food dye is the better one, though. I think food dye is probably because you could dye it red and it would take no dye at all.
SPEAKER_01:And that's not gonna damage the pool or anything. You don't think. You hope. Yeah, you just wish for the best. Still don't get caught.
SPEAKER_02:They uh maybe invest in a ski mask.
SPEAKER_01:We we weren't really at New Harmony, we weren't really, I don't think, I guess, known too much for pranks, but I remember I think it was my senior year. Uh the it was a s Carmi over in Illinois. Uh I think there's a story had come out that some kids had sprayed like weed killer on the football field and like a giant penis. Damn and so it killed all the grass and just left this giant.
SPEAKER_03:The senior class, when I was a sophomore in Indy, we had a H O uh the Hall of Excellence. It was called the Ho.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And it had like glass pitched ceilings, and the senior class like cut out a bunch of dicks and duct taped, like taped them on the roof, and so like the sunlight created a bunch of dick shadows all in the ho.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, so good.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's the shit we'd hear from other schools, and we'd be like, we're gonna do that, but I don't think any of us ever had the balls to actually. Yeah. I think years ago somebody cut a chicken loose in Mount Vernon, but that was it.
SPEAKER_03:Cows don't go upstairs but not downstairs.
SPEAKER_01:Right. I knew somebody who taught at uh Mount Vernon and it was her first year teaching, and uh within that first year uh some kid took a shit on the football field. Like, and it was like the first week that school had been back. Oh yeah, brother. There's shit on the football field. Oh yeah, brother.
SPEAKER_02:Yo, their football team is dooky. Uh so that checks out. Um shout out to Mount Vernon, man.
SPEAKER_01:So what'd you do after high school?
SPEAKER_02:What is school?
SPEAKER_01:Um, I started working in the culinary industry pretty much immediately and just kind of like rode that out uh for a while. Um pretty much. Uh I always love New Harmony, and New Harmony has there's so many great things about New Harmony. It's quiet. Um there's I I mean I I love like crickets and frogs and stuff, and it feels like every night in New Harmony, there's crickets and frogs. Um the weather's always nice there. It's I don't know. But you know everybody. Most specifically, yeah, not that too, you know everybody, but most specifically, uh the cost of living is insanely cheap there. So in New Harmony. So um like my rent is like five hundred dollars a month. So and good sized place. In a decent sized place, yeah. So I you can't beat it. Uh you can't beat it. But though, you know, the uh just kind of stuck it out. Um always wanted to do comedy. It was always something that was always kind of a bit of uh I would I've always been writing jokes and kind of coming up with bits, but never really had like the the energy or the I don't know, the confidence to actually actually pull the trigger on doing it. But I'd write like sets and stuff constantly, and I'd see these open mics, and I'd think, well, I'm gonna go to this open mic, but then something would talk me out of doing it. You know, I'd be like, eh no, never mind. Did you watch a lot of comedy, like Kill Tony or anything like that? Um, no. I mean, like growing up, like we did watch comedy for sure. Um, but it was like uh like growing up, my favorite this is embarrassing to admit, especially now today. Uh so I'm sorry to say this, but growing up, uh my favorite stand-up comedian was Bill Cosby. Nice. Um I loved Bill Cosby. Oh, he's a hit he's a heavy hitter. He's a heavy hitter for sure. He unfortunately did some some bad things.
SPEAKER_03:You know who else is a heavy hitter?
SPEAKER_01:Diddy. Right. You know, I hear that Jeffrey Epstein guy did a lot of good charity work too. Um I think fundraising, maybe.
SPEAKER_02:I want this is uh You gotta take the good with the bad. Uh yeah, I get it. I get it. I was stuck on Cosby. I was like trying to think of how hitter could like apply to him date raping people, and I just couldn't come up with anything. Uh but anyways, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:No, Cosby was dope though. I think he was using like uh medications and not like blunt objects, if that's what you're saying. Yeah, not an OJ. Not a hitter.
SPEAKER_02:He's not like slapping him with a shoe or he's not Barry Bonds, a doser. He's a dozer, dude. He's a heavy doser. He's got a heavy pore, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01:Very heavy handed that Bill Cosby.
SPEAKER_02:They always called him heavy handed Bill Cosby, you know?
SPEAKER_01:But Bill. So that was the rumor, apparently. We don't have to talk about book hobby. Everyone knew about it. Anyway. But uh it was like an open secret. But anyway, I growing up, I yeah, we liked we always liked uh I think Blue Collar Comedy Tour was one of the first stand-up specials I remember like seeing as a kid and being able to recognize as like, oh, this is like stand-up comedy, this is a special. Um, but I don't know, growing up, um, my parents introduced us to a lot of different comedians. Uh George Carlin. Colts. Yeah, a lot of different cults.
SPEAKER_03:There's applications for when you want to leave New Harmony. We got Waco, we got where you get where are you going?
SPEAKER_01:Oh I was thinking about popping down to uh I don't know, Jome Jimtown.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Um yeah, I heard Jonestown's real nice this time of year. Yeah. Good cool. Waco, Texas was just a fuck puppet show. Jesus Christ. You know that Waco story? Oh, sure. Yeah. Ah, what a mess, dude. It's actually a nice place now.
SPEAKER_03:Is it? Yeah, the Magnolia owners, like the Magnolia Homes magazine and like the TV show and stuff, they like bought like a large portion of the city.
SPEAKER_02:Did you know that the CIA folks that were watching them for years bought the cabin out like on the edge of that acreage, on the edge of that property. For personal use? They were surveilling from like their basically their fucking front yard. The CIA or the FBI or whoever the individuals while the cult was acting. Yeah, bro. And they were literally like getting eyes on this giant mansion, watching them like build. Yeah, dude, it was fucking the Waco story is fucking wild.
SPEAKER_01:It is wild. Yeah, dude. That one's probably my favorite cult. They had like the like the it was like a week-long shootout shootout or something.
SPEAKER_02:It was a couple of days for sure. That's nuts. It was like a week's worth of it was like a clock in, clock out type of that's war at that point.
SPEAKER_01:Like you just waged war. Did you guys ever see that movie? Uh uh shit, what's it called? Red State? I don't think so. No, I've not seen that one. It's a crazy movie, and it's kind of based off of like Waco, Texas type stuff.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_01:Um, and it's got uh I forget the name of the actor in it, but the dude play who plays like the cult leader is so fucking good in that movie. Did he think he was also Jesus? Yeah, kind of. A little bit.
SPEAKER_02:It's like a Messiah religious cult type thing. Yeah, that's wild, dude. That the dude I forget his name, but he thought he was he like had everyone that lived in the house thinking he was Jesus. I see his face, so I don't remember his name either.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but anyway, sorry. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So like you watched a good amount of comedy growing up. You wrote out little sketches and jokes, but like you never like you would wanted to go, but you never went. So like what actually got you on stage the first time?
SPEAKER_01:There was yeah, I don't know. Uh many years went by that I kind of just let go of it. But then you know, these things happen. Sometimes you have alter life altering uh things that occur to you, and you go I don't know. I never had that happen to me before where you have like this moment where like you feel like you're kind of like at the bottomest of the bottom you can be, and then uh you just I don't know, maybe it's manic being manic or whatever. You say, Well, I'm gonna feel like kind of trying something new, and I saw an opportunity to do it. Uh Alan Walker. Uh weirdly enough, I had been following him. Been on the show, right? Yeah, friend of the show. Yeah, um, I had been following his stuff, I think, for a while because I would kind of off and on kind of go out and where are there open mics in Evansville? And anytime I look, it would be like Alan, this guy, Alan Walker, you know, it'd be like, okay, this guy's putting him on or whatever. Um, so yeah, he was doing uh open mic at Spanky's, and I was just in a moment where I was like, I got nothing to fucking lose here. Um, I'm kind of looking for something to shake my life up a little bit. Uh so I'm gonna go fucking do this set at this open. Did you pre-write it? Yeah, well, it was all material I had like written. What was so insane about it was I had written so many jokes that when considering again was trying to put a set together, and it's that thing of where you hate everything you'd write, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Like the You're second guessing everything, yeah. A critic's worst uh or an artist's worst critic is like the artist themselves.
SPEAKER_02:A hundred percent.
SPEAKER_01:And so, and it would really what it was was it was poetry. I was writing a lot of poetry at the time. Like slam poetry? No, not like necessarily like slam poetry. I don't even know how to classify it. Uh uh little pro pieces, I guess. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:So do you go to poetry night at Boca?
SPEAKER_01:I don't. Uh I but but I am going to be there uh this Tuesday, and we can wait till the end to plug it. But uh Jonathan Baker, really cool dude. Shouts out to him.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Uh he uh I'm doing a a thing with him in January there.
SPEAKER_03:And we'll plug, we'll talk about it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we'll get there. We'll get there.
SPEAKER_03:Um you you came up with material, but then you didn't like the material that you were gonna take the first round?
SPEAKER_01:And I had written, I had what it what really what it was was I wanted, I didn't have the balls to go. I saw I had been aware, I was aware of the Poetry Speaks uh open my cut book uh uh third Tuesday of every month. Uh I'm plugging the show. Look at that gentle look. It was so No, you're doing great. Um but uh I didn't really have the balls to necessarily go through with it though, because I felt like there was something way more vulnerable about that. And ultimately, what I was reading, I've always everything comedy is in everything that I'm I do, you know. I I I don't know why. I've always used comedy as like a almost like a little bit of like something to lean on in the sense of like a coping mechanism. Like a coping mechanism. I feel like you can kind of like take on a lot more if you can laugh about it. 100%.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um, so but there, you know, I was writing all this poetry about all this stuff that was going on currently in my life at that time, and I was just stressed to the max, and uh then all that snow hit this past winter, yeah, and I was like stuck in my apartment for like a week as a result of that, just having like one long prolonged nervous breakdown. So all of this poems had come out of that time, and I'm sitting there reading them going, Well, I think this shit's hilarious. Did you do this something similar during COVID?
SPEAKER_03:Say what now? Did you do something similar?
SPEAKER_01:No, actually, COVID was cool for me. Not I mean, uh outside of like uh it being COVID and a pandemic, and I was working outside tens of thousands of people dying. Uh I was yeah, yeah, I was working in healthcare uh and that's that sucked. Actually, COVID kind of sucked. I don't know why I said it was cool. No, but I didn't I didn't uh these sick people were very pro-COVID here. Uh um but uh so I will initially it was gonna hit that that open mic, but I I kind of rewrote, I took lines from the poems and I said, Well, this these are jokes, and I can do these as jokes. And I always thought comedy and poetry were kind of cousins in many ways. Um and uh so yeah, then the rest is history. I did a set, uh, went to Spanky's and How did that go? Incredible. It went really good. At least I think so anyway. Um, I got a lot of really good laughs, and uh from that moment forward, this like thing just kind of clicked in my head where I said, Okay, this worked, like these jokes worked, like they were laughing. I got a lot of really good laughs there, so I'm feeling a little more confident about this material. Now I have to throw it in the trash and I can't tell these jokes. I was like, I'll be so embarrassed if I came back here next week and I had the same you know, set or the same jokes or whatever. At least at the same location, at least the same location. Like I have a rule, and it's I try to do new jokes at each open mic, but each open mic, if I haven't done those jokes there before, I'm like, that's a new audience, these are new jokes, you know. Oh yeah. Um but so then that started this train of just trying to stay prolific and just writing more and more and more and more, and um yeah, uh that it it it saved my life in many ways.
SPEAKER_02:I want to bump the brakes on writing because I have a huge question about that. So like the blank page. God, that's a vicious, vicious bitch. You know what I mean? Sure. Like, how do you overcome that? Because like, let's say you've done all your material, like everything you've ever written you've done at this location you're about to go to in a week, and you've got to come up with like five bangers for a five-minute slot in a week, and you've got to sit down and write them in less than seven days. Like you're on a time crunch, you're sitting at a blank sheet of paper, and your thoughts are just eating you alive, you know, and you're like, what the fuck? Like, how do you how does one get past the blank page? Because I find that like that's the hardest part for me, and I feel like a lot of other people that do want to write anything, the blank page is just a motherfucker. Right. So how do you get past that?
SPEAKER_01:You so you you just never have a blank page, right? So what I do a lot of the times, and a lot of the material I write, even just both in poetry and in comedy, um, a lot of it starts off as disjointed, what the fuck is this notes in my notepad app, right? So I think of a there might be a funny line comes to mind, you just write that, right? And I guess theoretically you're starting with a blank page at some point there, but at a certain point you just go throughout your day, whatever you're doing, oh you think of something, oh let me write a line. That could be a line in something here, or just whatever it is you're trying to come up with, or whatever. If it's a joke, mostly for me, um I have just so many off-the-wall fucking insane thoughts that it started off initially, I think, is just like, I'm gonna write that down because I think that's funny. Yeah, but then when you come back to it later, when you when you dedicate, when you want to sit down and actually dedicate proper time to writing, you open up that note uh pad and you just all these lines are in there. So now it becomes a game of like it's almost like putting a puzzle together of just like, okay, so how what did we write here? What is it, what is this? I think that's funny, and then boom, now you're writing.
SPEAKER_02:What the fuck was I thinking, dude? I'm fucking stupid. That's how that's my inner monologue, you know what I mean? Exactly.
SPEAKER_01:It's a lot of that too. I'm like fucking idiot.
SPEAKER_02:I text Brian and then I wait on his response, you know what I mean? Sometimes I have something to add to it, or sometimes I'm just like crying laughing, or sometimes it's extremely anti-Semitic, and I delete it from my text messages.
SPEAKER_03:Uh I I sent him one the other day that like uh Bruce Willis got a new acting job in uh the live action of Toy Story, and he's Mr. Potato. And then after that one, I text him, I said, What about a live action Veggie Tales where all the kids have disabilities? Oh, that's terrible.
SPEAKER_04:It's so bad.
SPEAKER_03:That's really funny though.
SPEAKER_04:So fucking funny.
SPEAKER_03:A lot of my jokes are too dark. I I would never I don't think I could ever do stand up.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I think a lot of people tell themselves that for sure. Do you know who Anthony Jesselnik is? Of course. Yeah. You can do comedy.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:He's killing babies in bathtubs in his jokes.
SPEAKER_01:Like, I think you're fine, dude. I didn't I don't know. I I I I I in many ways kind of feel like I did hit the ground running with it, but that uh another big hurdle to get over is like, yeah, my the rule is if you think it's funny, then you should use the confidence you have on that to tell that joke. Yeah. And I've been getting I don't know, I haven't gotten myself in trouble yet or anything, but I was having a conversation with some comedians recently about uh this night we had at Spanky's where I guess I I kind of unintentionally walked somebody. Walk. And and what do you mean? So like I said something that kind of bothered them and they lost. Oh, like they got up in the lap. Right, as a result of it. Which I think they were leaving anyway. I don't know, but they were razzing me about it because I I did this. I I told a Charlie Kirk joke, which wasn't even that bad. Bold strategy.
SPEAKER_03:It wasn't even that bad.
SPEAKER_01:Bolt strategy.
SPEAKER_03:So I told a 9-11 joke on 9-12.
SPEAKER_02:Right. Dude, Louis C.K. has a fucking 9-11 joke on 9-12. It's fucking primo. Anyways, you were saying that.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So you walked on the Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So you walked them and they're razzing you about it. Well, it it was one of these things where the I I guess the the Charlie Kirk joke, I don't I think was the catalyst. Then I followed it. And the joke was literally just, I said, guys, I said, I'm embarrassed to admit this, but who the fuck is Charlie Kirk? You know? And this was like a few days after he had been assassinated. Um and then it doesn't really get that big of a laugh or whatever, or whatever, we're moving on. And then the next joke I did was, you know, when God sent his son to die on the cross, everyone thanked him for it, but I do it and I'm a child. That's solid. And I guess this guy went, That's fucked up, and he walked out. I was totally oblivious. I because when I I'm like in my own world when I go up there, and it's hard to it's a lot to kind of keep a manage. Like I'm just listening for laughs mostly. People will heckle you and talk to you. I don't know what to do with that shit. Like at all.
SPEAKER_03:Cause like you may think something's funny, but that's like not you. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:You know, like I'm not like advocating child murder with that joke, but then also that's a joke that I wrote like in the car pulling up to the open mic, right? And I'm going like, oh, that's there's something there, and I write it down, and then when I say it, I always forget what kind of like reaction the audience is gonna get from that. And the worst one you can receive is when you tell a joke and it gets a oh, you know.
SPEAKER_02:Honestly, my favorite. My favorite. You go I want to reach down inside you and make you uncomfortable.
SPEAKER_01:You know what I mean? Some people are really good at that. There's a lot of really good, and I don't know. To me, if you're just the type of person where like just not a much can offend you, yeah, which I I I guess I can say as a straight white man, you know, I can be like, oh no, that doesn't offend me. Of course, other people in different walks of life are gonna be offended by different things, and it's never like in my intention to tell a joke. I I don't I'm not actively ever trying to offend anybody. Yeah, folks have to remember these are just jokes. Right. Yeah. And I'm never thinking like, oh, something I'm coming up with is gonna be mean towards a certain thing. Like I want to throw a dig at like a certain thing here comes this week. You know what I mean? Right, right. That's never the intentions. It's just kind of like whatever is funny is funny. You know, that said, I just also am the type of person who believes that nothing is sacred, right? Like we shouldn't have to limit ourselves of what is on the table and what isn't. I don't necessarily believe in too soon. I would say the most offensive thing I do on stage is any time a celebrity dies, I immediately start w writing. Yeah, I wanna I want to do one one little crack at them.
SPEAKER_03:Do you think like watching the news avidly or like staying up to date on the news is a big part of comedy? I don't do that, honestly.
SPEAKER_01:Um win for the home team. I don't either, brother. I don't do a whole lot of news watching necessarily, not not so much anymore, not since like I would say last fall, you know. Like since I I kind of tuned it all out. I had a lot of stuff go down uh at the top of this year uh that I won't go too in depth on, not because it's like a secret or whatever, but um uh that really just I could not be fucking bothered, you know what I mean? Like I had I have had a whole bunch of medical shit uh at the top of this year that happened that was absolutely like taking all of my things that I should stress about this right now. Then, you know, meanwhile, anytime I do check into the news, they're like, ah, Trump says we should kill homeless people. I just go, I know, and then I go back, I'm like, you know, I don't know what to say. It doesn't happen. Yeah. I don't know what to say or do about any of it. It's just seemingly getting progressively worse. But I'm not good at political humor either, necessarily. That's not even necessarily what I'm interested in talking about.
SPEAKER_02:So are you but you're active enough with with headlines to obviously you knew Charlie Kirk got clapped. Right. So you were like, okay. Right. And like you were saying, you watch for celebrities when they pass away. So you're staying contemporary in that aspect, right?
SPEAKER_03:Did I just learn that Princess Diana died cliff diving?
SPEAKER_04:Wait a minute.
SPEAKER_03:You know the story? What? They were like leaving the hotel and they were chased by paparazzi and they ended up driving their car off like the side of a cliff.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, okay. That's what I thought. I was like, is that he's dead.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I thought she died in a tunnel. I thought it was off a cliff.
SPEAKER_01:That's terrible. I don't know. I thought it was like a railing or something.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I thought it was like a tunnel. Yeah, that went over like a edge, right? I don't know. We'll keep it in.
SPEAKER_02:Leaving it in. Leaving it in. Uh yeah, for some reason when I think about Princess Diana dying, I was like two years old, but I remember seeing like a tunnel. I thought she died in anyways. It was a hit job, by the way. Uh conspiracy theories. Um But yeah, dude, so so you're staying contemporary in that aspect, um, but not the news.
SPEAKER_01:So you're writing like every day? I try to. Um, I really tried to. Of course, like writer's block is a real thing. Um what do you do to get out of writer's block? Put on some lo-fi? I I I don't really know, to be honest with you. You just kind of let enough funny shit happen to you before you're like, I gotta talk about this. You should just start walking downtown Evansville. I didn't know. It's fucking wild. Uh I have like tried going out just to be like, I need a funny story. And like it, but you can't go out and be like, okay, now something needs to happen tonight that I can be like, guys, this thing happened. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you gotta like, and then that uh you're like one of those firefighters starting fires to put out.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, right. You you said something in our comedy cachet that resonated with me. Uh, because I feel like in that scenario, like if you can't come up with something that's funny, it's like, okay, well, now I just gotta build something from scratch. You know what I mean? So you said in the comedy cachet, you were like, sometimes I just like to go on stage and like just uh spout out total bullshit, like just something that's not true. Uh and I love that by the way. So is that another way you combat kind of not having like a killer story for the week or something?
SPEAKER_01:A little bit. I think you if you can take like a funny concept and just try to if you don't have like a funny idea, go for a funny concept of some kind. And I've always thought that it would be it's just so funny to try to talk as if you're to just lie to people.
SPEAKER_02:You think that's funny? Okay.
SPEAKER_01:If you yeah, pretty much nice, dude. It's a good feeling, and they believe you, and it's powerful. And you can get people to do anything.
SPEAKER_02:Actually, uh running for office 2026.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, New Harmony, new cult leader.
SPEAKER_01:There's something.
SPEAKER_02:We're gonna get it right this time, guys. Third time around, third time's charm.
SPEAKER_03:That's what you saw in this pitch. New Harmony is a great city.
SPEAKER_01:It's huge. It's the best city. It's huge, it's wonderful.
SPEAKER_03:I want to reopen the high school. So much grass.
SPEAKER_02:There are a lot of homeless people. Yeah, we're gonna put a fence around the high school, a huge fence. Uh but yeah, so you like that.
SPEAKER_01:That's uh it's there's something inherently funny, is if you can like just say it as if it's true. Like, and because I you what if you watch enough like educated lectures or whatever, you see these educated people who have are pretty confident in what they're saying. You just do that with complete and utter bullshit. Yeah. Like something completely wacky, and try to sell it in the sense of like, oh, this guy's been reading something somewhere. Yeah, the water's turning the frog away.
SPEAKER_02:Right. Dude, it's is that is that Alex Jones? Jesus. Uh so in the comedy cachet, you spoke a little bit about that, uh, the the utter nonsense about films that you that you were trying to convince people that that exist is real. Uh you guys haven't seen this yet? I know, I thought I was thinking about that movie from earlier. So good. But do you do it with do you do it with other things? Or is that kind of that stake that you use, like the total bullshit stake in your comedy? Is that only with the film thing?
SPEAKER_01:Um, I do it with the thing. I do it with other stories too. I'll cite references that don't exist, you know. Did you guys see in the Wall Street Journal? I'll I'll drop like a book title. I'd be like, I I read it in this book, and it's called like The Science of Memory by Stephen Murray. Have you guys heard of this book? People are like, no, and I'm like, I made it up.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, nice. It's not real. I like that because I mean, I feel like if you are having that writer's block, it's like so long as you have a skeleton or like a premise or like at least a direction to go with a joke, you can kind of just like fill in with putty all the fucking bullshit, you know what I mean? And then at the end, just be like, oh yeah, no, Muhammad Ali didn't kill himself. Sorry. Uh you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah. Or just be, I don't know, to try to sell it. But I I and I have done, I don't know, I I we're also trying to do like wack-a-doo shit these days. I don't know. Sometimes if you run out of writer's block, one time I went to an open mic, I had been on a horrible case of writer's block where I was like, I got no at nothing funny. All the jokes I've done, I've done at like all these other mics, and I kind of feel embarrassed just to do them again. So I said, fuck it. I'll just do the old jokes, but in a German accent. I went up there and I did an entire set in a German accent. Made Paul feel real uncomfortable. And it Dylan, have you ever heard of psychopathy? I think it I think it was like yeah, I went up and I had a nervous breakdown. Yeah. But I thought it was I was I thought you were at rock bottom. Now, now we're at rock. It was it was like me and a couple other comedians. What was so funny about it was after the mic, there was a guy there who I guess it was his first time being there or whatever, and he didn't go up or anything, he was just in the audience. He came up to me afterwards and he said, I had no idea that you weren't like some German guy, that you were just doing an accent.
unknown:I was like, What?
SPEAKER_01:And he was like, I was like, I was sitting in the back there watching you, being like, Wow, this guy from Germany is doing stand-up comedy in Newburgh right now. Like he's like, I didn't know what to make of that. So I thought we were at the Germanium manicor for a minute.
SPEAKER_02:Dude, honestly, to me, that tells me I'm doing that again.
SPEAKER_01:You know what I mean? Have you done it again yet? I haven't done it since. But I thought that something like that is funny. And a lot of times, like, if it gets me laughing, that's what I'm doing. And oftentimes I'm also the only one laughing.
SPEAKER_02:Hell yeah. Probably. You know what else would work for him, I think? You know how Chrysher does the no shirt thing? Yeah. I think you do no pants. No pants. You know what I mean? Just do your normal set, but just come out and draws, dude. Draws. Yeah, just draws and your kicks. And you know, a nice maybe even a nice shirt, too, like a polo or something.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, a tie with a card. Something with a collar, dude.
SPEAKER_02:And no pants, dude. No pants. I mean, if you're confident enough, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01:I had an idea. We were talking we were talking about for uh when it gets closer to Halloween, doing an open mic where we're gonna encourage everyone to dress up and then do like a set as whatever character they're dressed up as. And I was like, it would be so funny to do like just a ghost in the sheet, you know, classic ghost on the sheet with holes cut out in it. Yeah. But then like have like a thin sheet and be wearing like nothing underneath. Dude, just dong. Just thin enough to where people are like, You set up a big light. Yeah, and be like, I didn't know you guys could see, I didn't know you'd be able to see through it. Uh that scroat? Like, why that's fucking scroat, dude. Why would you be naked under the first place? I didn't people I didn't think people were gonna see it. You know, that's a bolster.
SPEAKER_02:I got a buddy of mine who wears a kilt everywhere, dude, and he does not wear underwear underneath his kilt. It's like a religious thing for him.
SPEAKER_01:Paul showed up uh when he was doing uh the Shakespeare thing, the two kingsmen. Uh he showed up to an open mic in like full like Shakespeare garb. It was hilarious. Fucking Paul.
SPEAKER_03:Did he do like uh like two jokes in old English?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he did. No. I think that's what was so funny about it. What the fuck, Paul's? That was what was so funny about it. Cause he's like in a toga being like, yeah, I went on a date last weekend. It was a brothel.
SPEAKER_02:Jesus, Paul. But tighten up, brother. I miss you. I know. Oh god.
SPEAKER_03:So um, so what I So like when you first came up the few times, like, did you bring like postcards or anything, or did you go straight off the dome?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and I still take notes up there with me. I try to I try to stay off of them, but if they're new jokes, I just don't feel like by so like we do there's like three open mics going in Evansville right now. So by the end of like those three open mics, I usually try to have at least one set, if not with like at least if not half new. It used to be full new, but then of course, like you give yourself unrealistic challenges and you go, well, I could do half new jokes and rewrite old jokes and kind of find a structure, you know, build a set. It's like putting a puzzle together. But um I do you do that, and after those three open mics, I kind of go like um, you know, I don't feel the urge to like memorize these necessarily. So I take notes with me everywhere I go just because I also am fucking forgetful and you know, you get nervous and you can't really. It's like I don't know, my brain goes blank, especially when people laugh, it like wipes my brain blank. So I need those notes to be like, okay, what was next? Oh, it's the quef joke.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, because the pause the pause of like laughter, I'm sure it's gotta be like because like sometimes you just gotta stop and let them finish laughing.
SPEAKER_02:Can I ask him for advice? I I don't know if we talked about it on the comedy cachet. I I believe, uh I believe we did, how like my current thought process of writing a funny joke is like I just think of a funny thing and then I can't go any further. So like that's how I got loud nun pussy on the first comedy cachet we ever did. I was like, you know what, guys, it was just my brother Corey, Tom, and myself, and I was like, I'm thinking for my joke, loud nun pussy. And they were like, go on. I was like, no, that's it. That's all I can use. That's it. And then like another one, I just wrote beard. I I like I but in my head, it's like a funny looking beard I I can't write a joke to, or like gay dog, that's hilarious. Right. You know, like why would a dog be gay, first off? But I like how do you uh extrapolate from that? You have like the thing that you think is funny, like loud nun pussy is a fucking hitter. But when we brought it up that day, we just started writing a monologue for this nun who has an audible vagina, right? And instead of writing a joke, we just wrote this short film out on the comedy cachet. It really didn't work out well at all. But like what's your thought on that? Like, what's your advice for me on if I have a funny thing or a thing I think is funny? How do I like it?
SPEAKER_01:Well, if it's like a joke, I uh what I do is I try to at least get like a few sentences, like a setup punchline. Because I'm I'm bad with that too. When you're driving like or whatever you're doing, if you just don't have the time to sit down and write out a joke, you just write like, yeah, you know, like fucking whatever, loud gnome pussy. Yeah, and then you go Don't fucking steal my shit. That's something I just came up with. I'm coming to all your shows now. Don't fucking steal my shit. But um I I try not to do that though, because I'm guilty of going back and looking at my notes and being like, what was that? So what I do is I try to write the joke, you know? Right. Or at least just like whatever rough draft it can be. And even sometimes it might even just be a note, like the thing Dustin said when I asked him, you know, about the one thing, and he said this, and you know, a little cliff notes type thing. Like I'm thinking I just was I had a note I was looking at earlier today in my phone, and it just says uh Charlie Kirk's cute in it, right? Okay. And I know what that joke means because I j that was a joke I came up with the other day, um, and it was just conversationally, I was talking to a friend, and uh she was pitching me some jokes that she had written, and it was a tag that I threw on her joke, which is terrible. There's different layers of jokes you write too, because you go, Well, uh, you can only tell this joke, this joke would work under this context of we're I'm at this open mic with this person and they tell this joke, and I can bounce off of it in this way type thing. But she she wrote some joke about uh uh which I don't want to spoil her joke, but it was something to the degree of she said Charlie Kirk is cute. And I said, Yeah, I go, you or you could say, uh, you know, I think Charlie Kirk's pretty cute, or I think uh Donald Trump is pretty cute in the same way that I thought Charlie Kirk was pretty cute. Like I'd really like to uh neck, if you know what I mean. You know. I like that. I like that, dude. So I see that, and I can go, oh right, that's the that joke, or whatever. But then you're gonna assassinate no I'm talking about. Yeah, sorry. If that was no, you're good.
SPEAKER_02:Those don't need any alphabet boys knocking on our door being C I A F E I'm sorry. Wherever you want to beep it, yeah. That would be fun. Just completely beep it.
SPEAKER_01:Um But those are the type of jokes, too, that like. Like, yeah, I come that you come to my head that I go, when I write that, I think that's funny, but then when I say it and then it gets a reaction, there's always one or two people that are gonna go, oh, you know? And I go I always feel really bad in those moments where I go, Yeah, that's pretty fucking bad. Like I know, I know what I just said was pretty fucking bad. But stay with me, it gets better. Right. Right.
SPEAKER_03:Wait, there's more.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we're gonna get to gay dog here soon. So just hang tight, folks. I do the chal you try to challenge yourself where you go, write a clean joke, write a clean joke, and then you just can't, or whatever. Or or the clean joke. Or it's about drinking bleach. Right. There you go. Right. Clean joke. Yeah. Right. But uh yeah, that was um.
SPEAKER_02:Can't fucking stand you. Jesus Murphy.
SPEAKER_01:Well that's that's what I always encourage everyone to do. Just write. Write, write, write, sit down, dedicate time to it. Try to write. Now you don't have to be great at it. I'm I can sit here and say this shit all day, but I'm I have poor writing habits. Uh I'm unemployed currently, so recently I've had like more time to sit down and dedicate towards it. Um but you know, as much as you can, write out your joke. You don't even have to tell it that way. Write out your concept of the joke, you know what I mean? Um that's ultimately what you want to do because before you tell a joke, you at least want to know what the joke is. You're when you're going to these open mics, you're testing out your material, so you don't know what's gonna work and what's not. So you don't have to hold yourself to the structure of like you don't have to read it verbatim of like what you wrote or whatever. You can just go up there, read the concept. Depending on the crowd, too, the crowd is gonna be your big deterring factor on like how a joke can be told or how a a d a punchline can be told. But if you have at least just that concept that you've written out, then you're golden pony boy. That's that's the secret.
SPEAKER_02:Hell yeah, dude. And then I love the uh outsiders reference as well. Umsiders fan.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, we read the how to read the book and then we watched the movie. Um not to get confused with the new outsiders hashtag ice.
SPEAKER_02:Shit. Jesus. They're really ramping up too. Um but yeah, dude, I don't know. So stage uh talking about complicated things with comedy like stage presence, you know what I mean? Like how to how one acts on stage. I know we talked a little bit in the comedy cachet about how you uh Zach seems to think you don't have like a tell. Okay. Like, remember we talked about that and he was like, Yeah, when you say a joke, you just kinda like look at the people. And again, I'd like to re I'd like to get you checked out for some psychopathy. I think you might not be well. But sometimes that makes the best comedians. So that being said, um, I mean, is that true? Do you do all your shit deadpan basically?
SPEAKER_01:A little bit, maybe. I think that's mostly out of nerves, really. Um, but I don't know. I'm ultimately just up there trying to have fun, you know? Yeah. Um, and I think I people talk about, oh, it's so scary to bomb. I hate bombing. Bombing sucks. I low key thinks it's kind of fun to bomb. Again.
SPEAKER_03:Umrise my home. Or is that actually like you guys fucking suck, I'm out of here. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:You actually want him to say that before you go up. Hey, make sure you tell the entire crowd that they suck cock, and then I'm gonna come out there and just rip them.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_02:Be sure to dry the stage up for me before I come out there. Exactly. Get a couple walkers, dude. Uh, let's get this going. Jesus Christ. Dude, shout out to Zach. He might be the funniest person I know. No gallbladder. Zach's hilarious. With no gallbladder. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um, yeah. Uh I don't know. I guess it's kind of deadpan. I I uh You move around a lot, like a little bit. Physically being on the stage is kind of what I'm getting at. I fets with the cord a lot. I catch myself because I I'll sometimes record my sets and I'll catch myself watching in the video just these little things I do where I'm like twirling the cord with my hand and I'm going, like, oh, you were so nervous. Yeah, that's a tick, dude. Like a tick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, oftentimes I feel I work better if I'm holding the mic. If I do it in the stand, then I don't know what to do with my hands.
SPEAKER_03:And you could pull off like a sailor costume with a pipe.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, perhaps.
SPEAKER_02:A lot of people don't do the stand, but what irritates me the most is when like uh one will go on stage for like a short set, like an open mic, and they'll take the mic from the stand and then leave the stand there. I'm like, move the fucking out of the way. Yeah, the show's about you, not the mic stand.
SPEAKER_01:That's a good thing to do too. It's nice to have little tiny things you can do that do kind of occupy your brain. So, like it starting is hard when you go out when you're getting pulled or whatever, uh you never know. Like, you uh there's always a moment, I always have like a 10-second window where they bring me up and then I'm holding the mic and I'm looking out at everybody, and I'm I don't know what the fuck am I supposed to say? You know what I mean? Like, you don't know how do I start this or whatever. Stop looking at it. Right, exactly. Everybody, close your eyes real quick. Yeah. Um but uh what I do but doing something like moving that stand out of the way, you can get your little, you know, hellos out of the way right there. Yeah. And then it kind of that's just that little action is a really comforting transition into just being like, okay, now I'm gonna tell jokes.
SPEAKER_03:Have you ever seen uh Casey Rocket? Yeah, he just moves the stand 50 times.
SPEAKER_01:Also, fastest man on stage doing comedy. Fastest man on stage, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:That dude can crab walk like a motherfucker, dude. Just like a fucking Nintendo 64 game, dude. Just fucking back. God, dude, it's fast.
SPEAKER_03:So only only a year in comedy, but like, has there ever been a moment where like you were just like, I don't wanna I don't wanna keep doing this anymore?
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And like what pulls you through that moment? What keeps you going back on stage?
SPEAKER_01:Mostly just the creative endeavor of it. Uh because you know, you have good nights, you have bad nights. Like I said earlier, a lot of comedians take it hard about bombing, or they say, Oh, that wasn't good, or oh, no one laughed at my jokes, so all these jokes must be ass. And it's like, no, you know, it's that's not always necessarily the case. Um you just gotta kind of like I said, keep writing, keep pull your just keep coming back, keep doing it. Uh it's the more you do it, you will it's like, I don't know, maybe you could compare it to like a little bit of a gambling addiction, you know, because you're gonna you're gonna either have a really good set and it's gonna feel really good, and you're gonna get a lot of good laughs, and it's gonna go straight to your head and you're gonna be patting yourself on the back, or you're not gonna get any laughs whatsoever, you know? And that's fine as well. It's just a matter of like you're not gonna get either of those if you don't keep coming back. If it's something you want to do, first and foremost, you have to want to do it. Right. Um but yeah, it but tons of times, absolutely. You have these moments where you just are fucking like, none of this shit is funny. What am I doing? What pulls you through that? What's your motivation? That kind of keeps you on the gas. Just kind of like the creative endeavor. I like um I just like it's becomes a challenge at that point. When you want to quit, you just kind of go, Well, let me work right some more. And then that brings you back to it. Because eventually what you're gonna do is you're gonna come up with something that you're gonna be proud of, and then you're gonna be excited to try it, right? So then it becomes I tell myself all the time, anytime I've ever bombed, I go, I think it's time for a break, you know. I think it's time for a break. I think I'm like wearing myself thin. Nice long little writing break. But then in between that mic and the next one, I'm like, I wrote some jokes, pretty excited to try them, you know. I'm not gonna do that break. Let's get the fuck back out there. Exactly. I'm ready to upset some people. Yeah, it's literally as simple as that, where you're just like, I have some thoughts I want to share them.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I want you guys to hear my opinions now.
SPEAKER_01:Right, exactly. Um, but yeah, just that, the incredible, just if it's something that you if you get any remote of anything out of, uh that will keep you to want to keep doing it. I think. I'm no expert on any of this. Like I said, it's still my first year uh uh in doing it.
SPEAKER_03:Uh what's that what's some advice some of the other people in the comedy scene have given you that's like really paid off? Oh man.
SPEAKER_01:Um trying to think. I mean, I think it was Alan who told me to just keep writing and just to keep coming out and trying it. Uh which because with the first time I did it, I thought, I don't know when I'm gonna have the confidence to do it again. But he was like, uh yeah, keep doing it. Like you're good at it, and uh you can only get better if you just keep doing it. And I thought, like that's how it works. It's like I I think he could he like we compare I I look at it very much as like exercise, you know what I mean? Yeah. It's it's your flex and a muscle, you know. And rather it's good or it's bad, you're still you're in the gym, you're working out, so you're gonna get stronger. Um that was a big one. Um I'm trying to think. I don't know. Mostly just, I mean, uh the comedy scene, everybody's really encouraging, everyone's really nice. Um, you know, I th I feel like everybody's really honest. Uh I always appreciate uh when a comic is honest with me about if a bit is not funny. Um I like hearing that. There's you don't want to be I think we're all guilty to a certain degree of like doing the nice thing and being like, no, that's really funny. Like that's really funny. When it's something they said kind of isn't funny. But I feel like a lot of them are pretty honest, and I appreciate that type of honesty. Um but yeah, I don't know. I would say that's about it, really, that I've received first year still. Still learning, still taking it.
SPEAKER_02:Well, you're well spoken, and the way that you break down the the process of comedy itself is it's pretty compartmentalized, which is what you have to do. It's pretty intense. Like, I don't know if you've read literature on comedy before.
SPEAKER_01:I read Norm MacDonald's book, but it's not I don't think it was written.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, everything that I've read is is they say to do comedy the way you're explaining it. So like, yeah, you're you're doing it correctly. I think Alan is dead on the nuts.
SPEAKER_03:Can we uh switch to his Instagram real fast and so we can get his handles out there for people to see?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's pull these handles up, boys.
SPEAKER_03:So on the Instagram, if we can go back up to the top real fast for his name, it is the realist Dillist with uh D-I-L-L for Dill. And then you've got uh what upcoming what open mics pinned and some reels from your local sets.
SPEAKER_01:Hell yeah. Um, yeah, that's uh Spanky's on Tuesday. Uh we're there in Haney's Corner at Spanky's in a downtown. Hell yeah, dude. Right off Jefferson.
SPEAKER_02:It's a nice spot, dude.
SPEAKER_01:It's a it's a fun we have fun out there. It's a nice new building. It's pretty sick. Yeah. Yeah. We just recently opened it up. We're doing uh it's like comedy, poetry. Uh we do uh music as well. We haven't had a whole lot of musicians come out recently, uh, but it's been uh it's been a lot of fun, and yeah, we're there every Tuesday.
SPEAKER_03:Your TikTok is what Dill Stands Up.
SPEAKER_02:D I L L Stands Up. I like that, dude. Hell yeah, man. And uh yeah, give this dude a look. Um whenever we're able to unban our TikTok account, uh we will subscribe and follow, dude. Very much appreciate it, dude. Um what about upcoming dates and stuff that you got going on? Uh I know you said you got something popping off in January. Yes. Uh the poetry thing.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, Jonathan uh S. Baker, uh, he hosts the uh Poetry Speaks. Which I learned this recently. They've been that open mic specifically, uh at least the spirit of it, has been going for 30 years. That's what I'm saying. Which is kind of bonkers. Yes. Um, but they're there the first Thursday of every month, and uh I'll be doing a featured spot there uh in January. It's his uh birthday show. Hell yeah. Very much looking forward to that. Uh I'll be reading poems and telling jokes. Um so thick, dude. Then uh I don't know I don't know how early I can speak of this. I'm just gonna say it anyway. And this will come out mid-November, like we talked about mid to late November. I think November 21st, uh, you can catch uh it'll be um Andy Russell, uh myself, Zach Pollard, Antonio Edmonds. We will be at Six Strings doing a little comedy show today. Oh I did hear about that. I was talking to Andy about that. Yeah, yeah, I'm very excited. That's gonna be fun.
SPEAKER_02:Oh yeah. Uh um what else you got? Anything else coming up in the pike for 2025? I think that's pretty much it to finish. Finish plan and then all the open mics, obviously, right?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah. Uh Spanki's on Tuesday. Uh there's uh Lyle's on Sundays, which is just uh I don't know if you guys want people to know where your studio is. Not yet. Okay. Uh well actually never mind. It doesn't matter. Uh I won't say where it is. But uh yeah, there's Lyles does an open mic on Sunday, that's a lot of fun. Uh Joe and Alex, uh great hosts, uh fun people, check them out. And then uh Joe Mays does uh just recently do it, started uh Tiki Bar open mic down there downtown. Love Joe. Uh fun mic. Uh he just does like an alternating co-host thing. So you I don't know. He you might catch me out there uh please occasionally. Um uh yeah, Havens on uh first Thursday of every month. I think that's right.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, because I've been to a couple of the when they were Jennings.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, the Jennings.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, Jennings uh what's it called now? Havens, yeah. Jennings Havens house. I don't know what it's called. Um but yeah, really great uh basement. Love a good basement vibe. It's funny.
SPEAKER_01:It's a it's a fun open mic too.
SPEAKER_02:Um but yeah, man, I can't thank you enough. We uh we we snagged you up, Dylan, on a Sunday. You came in here, you talked crazy with us.
SPEAKER_03:Um send us the form to join the cult.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and uh I no problem.
SPEAKER_01:Are you guys do you guys have children?
SPEAKER_02:Uh no, I do not. Yeah. Perfect. 50-50. He's like, I'll take yours and we'll get you one.
SPEAKER_01:Uh if you had children, would you be opening? We'll talk. We'll talk. It's in the forum.
SPEAKER_02:Uh yeah. It's all prerequisite, don't worry about it. Uh but yeah, dude. You we snagged you up on a Sunday. You were kind enough to come out to our uh you're the technically the first to be interviewed here. I don't know in what order this will drop, but in the new studio. And we're very pumped to have you, man. So thank you so much for your time.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Thanks for having me, guys. This is uh thrilling episode of the day's grimm. My name is Brian Michael Day. My name is Thomas Grimm, and this has been Billing.
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